@AzureFemme i ALSO think this is a thing that will just have to shake out on mastodon periodically (and that it will isn’t an indictment of the platform to be certain!). It just grew a lot, I’m not surprised really. It does suck though, and even i was hoping we’d somehow magically avoid it this time.
@AzureFemme (also i apologize if any of this comes off as crass, what you’re talking about seriously sucks, people shouldn’t put up with it, and i think better things are possible. They just aren’t going to happen bc we moved to a new site, there’s more to do than that!)
@AzureFemme @poss_bot I think as folks continue migrating over some negative behaviors will also transfer, at least at the outset, but with actual community enforcement and an interest in accountability it can be curbed much more than it was on twitter. the platform doesn’t encourage dogpiling in the same way at all (it was gamified over there), but a lot of the onus falls on the moderators
@MillennialDog @AzureFemme @poss_bot Yeah, I don't think this can be overstated. Twitter algorithms actively looked for posts that you "interacted with" and tried to find more. So it ended up signal boosting shit that made you angry, because that's what people interact with in over the top ways.
Things that make us happy get a star, maybe a comment, and then we move on.
@sandrockcstm @MillennialDog @AzureFemme i totally agree with all of this. But I’m also fairly convinced that most of what i really disliked about twitter (personally, i suppose i can’t speak for others) really came from people in my own social sphere, and wasn’t the result of algorithms or clickbait.
@sandrockcstm @MillennialDog (tagging blue out cause i don’t wanna dump tons of posts on them) also i REALLY think the structure of mastodon is way more conducive to people eventually landing in a place that’s as safe for them as is likely possible on a social media platform!! Like i have faith in the architecture and also in many of the folks trying to make it good. I think we have the wind at our backs here in a way we did not on twitter.
Like that we can silence or suspend whole instances, that have users with mostly that behavior.
There are at least better moderation tools here, to make sure that toxic culture doesn't spread too far.
Here I also made a stand against that by telling people to cut it out and / or CW where appropriate or I'm done with them
I can't do it anymore and I'm making it clear that isn't welcome on my TL. I'll just do without people who so it and boost it.
Harsh but I have to reclaim some of what I lost to Twitter
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